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18 août 2011 @ 13:53:13
Voila un homme sympathique
18 août 2011 @ 13:53:23
Je pense que ce sujet risque de fortement déraper … difficile de juger des propos juste comme ça … à supprimer selon moi. Rien de marrant non plus.
18 août 2011 @ 14:00:25
Je suis d’accord, faut supprimer, car on vas partir dans un débats…
18 août 2011 @ 14:05:55
J’ai l’impression qu’ils ne sont pas tous d’accord… Pas un mariage arrangé selon moi si elle porte le voile, je crois simplement que la mère est un brin raciste. Mais pas drôle, pour une fois.
18 août 2011 @ 14:10:53
Il doit y avoir des tensions entre le gendre et sa belle-mère, ça doit pas être triste, mouarf !!
18 août 2011 @ 14:26:27
Il n’y a pas lieu d’avoir un débat de toute manière. Ce sont juste des mauvaises langues…
Limite, le seul débat qu’on puisse poser c’est est-ce que la coiffure des poney doit être ondulée ou lisse ? Et avec ou sans fleur dans les cheveux ?
18 août 2011 @ 14:27:36
Ce qui est triste c’est la réaction de la mère, d’autant plus sur Facebook.
Avec en plus les autres Facebookeurs qui commentent sans prendre de recul….
Ca doit être difficile pour la fille qui a certainement accès à ces sympathiques commentaires… Et pour le beau-fils ça ne doit pas être non plus très agréable.
18 août 2011 @ 14:28:08
C’est la mère Nathalie, pfff quelle p*te !
18 août 2011 @ 14:34:51
Ca ne choque personne les commentaires 8 mois plus tard ??
18 août 2011 @ 14:35:25
C’est quoi une pigone ?
18 août 2011 @ 14:37:14
La clairement ce qui est ridicule, c’est que visiblement les gens pensent qu’elle a été voilée de force… Et si c’était son choix ? Faut arrêter de penser que si une femme se convertit (ici en l’occurence à l’Islam) c’est uniquement parce qu’elle a été forcée.
Sachez qu’un musulman pratiquant « correctement » sa religion ne forcera jamais personne a se convertir, ça va a l’encontre même du principe d’une religion.
Sinon je vois pas ou est le truc drôle et le rapport avec Stupidbook non plus, d’ailleurs.
18 août 2011 @ 14:41:20
Waouh, moi je trouve ça justement bien que ça se retrouve ici. Après tout, les commentaires de ces personnes nous montrent à quel point les gens sont tarés.
Franchement, moi je trouve ça assez ironique, des « bons » français critiquant des musulmans (on suppose d’ailleurs on n’en sais rien) en faisant des fautes de français énormes et en marquant « Pauvre France ».
Effectivement, pauvre France. Quelquefois, je me sens fière d’être issue de l’immigration ^^
18 août 2011 @ 14:42:23
Et si c’est la vérité que la mère (ainsi que ces amis) constate 8 mois après « l’heureux » événement ?
En voyant sa fille porter le voile « ses cheveux on les voient plus, il y a un voile dessus » (avec les fôôtes)…
ET en voyant les heureux tourtereaux vivre….
C’est sur le mur de la présumée (et probable) mère dans l’album « mariage de ma fille » (donc heureux événement) au fait.
MAIS c’est vrai, c’est pas drôle. JUSTE triste et parfois vrai.
18 août 2011 @ 14:42:27
J’ai penser la même chose que Chiquette, le 1er commentaire de la mère (Nathie), date de 8 mois plus tard.
Peut-être simplement qu’à la base, elle était très heureuse pour sa fille (sinon pourquoi cette description et pourquoi mettre les photos sur facebook), ensuite il s’est avéré que le gendre ne voulait épouser cette fille uniquement pour les papiers, et la mère en a fait profiter tout le « monde » facebookien.
Je penche pour ça. Du moins j’ai l’impression.
Et c’est pas forcément une histoire de racisme -_-’ faut arrêter de toujours croire que dès que quelqu’un est moins blanc que les autres et qu’il y a une critique –> c’est raciste !
C’est peut-être tout simplement VERIDIQUE et pas en relation avec la nature du pigment de la peau…
Après je dis ça…:???:
18 août 2011 @ 14:43:06
moi j’ai remarqué que les musulmans pronent leur religion, et aimeraient qu’ont soit tous des musulmans donc ça ne m’étonnerai pas qu’il l’ait « fortement incité » pour ne pas dire forcé
je ne vois pas en quoi c’est un mariage d’amour si la femme doit changer de religion quand elle se marie, puis bizzaremment l’inverse on ne le voit jamais, un musulman ne devient jamais catholique
18 août 2011 @ 14:48:31
@hello: Euuh, si ! Regarde dans certains pays comme l’Egypte où il y a une forte population catholique ET musulmane, certaines personnes élevées en musulmans changent par la suite de religion et deviennent catholiques.
@ploop : Si c’est la vérité je trouve ça très triste, effectivement. Mais bon, ce n’est pas une raison pour afficher ça au grand jour sur Facebook (mais y a eu pire comme révélation).
18 août 2011 @ 14:50:18
Ca va vous étonner apparemment, mais vous savez qu’il existe des gens qui veulent des papiers français et qui ne sont pas musulmans ?
Ca sort d’où cette volonté de parler de l’islam dans ces commentaires !!???
Ils signent un papier… y a des rideaux sur les murs. Ca ressemble à un mariage en mairie pour moi.
18 août 2011 @ 14:51:48
Les autorités pourraient annuler le mariage rien qu’en voyant le premier commentaire de la Maman.
Si elle pense vraiment que c’est pour les papiers, elle a des recoures quand même plus simple que Facebook :p
@geoker, tu peux faire un mariage en mairie ( officiel selon la loi ? ) ET un mariage en église/mosquée (???) /synagogue. Non?
Je dis peut etre des bétises mais…
18 août 2011 @ 14:55:08
@Dryade: Exactement, si c’est la vérité, la mère et la fille peuvent aller au commissariat et porter plainte (faut-il encore que ce soit la vérité). Je trouve tout de même que ce déballage est totalement déplacé. Et nos commentaires aussi d’ailleurs, ce sont leurs vies cela ne nous regarde pas (c’est pour ça que j’écris mon troisième commentaire).
Et oui, avec chaque type de religion il y a deux mariages. Un obligatoire en mairie, puis après dans le lieu de culte choisi.
18 août 2011 @ 15:14:06
@Katia : FAUX ! (je me prends pour Norman fait des vidéos la lol) Le mariage religieux chez les musulmans peut avoir lieu AVANT le passage a la mairie.
18 août 2011 @ 15:15:20
Et au passage, merci pour les votes négatifs ah ah ah ça me fait bien rire.
et quand je lis certaines idées reçues qui persistent… parmi les commentaires…. J’ai envie de dire : CULTIVEZ VOUS et allez discuter avec des musulmans, (pas les fondamentalistes hein !) vous serez TRÈS TRÈS SURPRIS.
18 août 2011 @ 15:21:32
C’est drôle, c’est pas drole, tout dépend de chacun, donc à la rigueur si y en a que ça fait rire pour diverses raisons (parce qu’on pense que la fille s’est fait prendre par une conne, parce qu’on pense que la mère est parano et raconte des conneries, et qu’on rie de la mentalité qui LA est raciste, parce que la fille est un boudin…) ben qu’on les empêche pas de rire de ça, donc à laisser car ça peut être drole sans arrières pensées néfastes.
Bref, le mariage n’est que la première étape vers le divorce.
18 août 2011 @ 15:22:12
la belle-mère est une belle et grosse raciste
18 août 2011 @ 15:25:58
Dans les deux sens on sera surpris. Mais tu sais pourquoi on voit tout ça? Car y des tas de conneries en France (une république laïque qui autorise un parking ou la rue comme lieu de prières, la mairie de Paris qui finance une fête pour la fin du Ramadan, et de nombreuses autres choses contestables) et que les gens qui réfléchissent pas plus que ça se braquent sur la communauté musulmane et oublie que TOUS ne sont pas comme ça.
EDIT : remerciements aux pigeons traitant la mère de raciste comme ça direct, c’est beau la « chasse aux racistes », la version 2.0 du Maccarthysme. Ca fait « tolérant »
18 août 2011 @ 15:29:00
La belle-mère est pas raciste, elle est juste à la page. C’est tellement d’actualité le mariage pour simplement avoir les papiers qu’elle a raison de se méfier. Mais effectivement ça ne veut pas dire non plus qu’il ne l’aime pas.
18 août 2011 @ 15:34:48
@Evoluol : il peut…Mais selon l’article 433-21 du CP : « Tout ministre d’un culte qui procédera, de manière habituelle, aux cérémonies religieuses de mariage sans que ne lui ait été justifié l’acte de mariage préalablement reçu par les officiers de l’état civil sera puni de six mois d’emprisonnement et de 7500 euros d’amende. »
Musulman ou pas, la loi est la même pour tous. Le mariage religieux pour être « valide » doit intervenir APRES le mariage civil. Sinon il n’a tout simplement aucune valeur aux yeux de l’Etat.
(Ne voyez aucun racisme dans cette dernière phrase, le catégorisme d’Evoluol m’a un peu stressé :lol: )
18 août 2011 @ 15:38:46
Mais sinon effectivement je ne trouve pas ça super drôle…Surtout affligeant. Si vraiment la mère est « déçue » du mariage de sa fille, elle enlève les photos et bast! M’enfin! :shock:
18 août 2011 @ 15:43:57
@Smile : un mariage religieux valide aux yeux de l’état ? Je vois pas trop la logique…
18 août 2011 @ 15:53:04
@Evoluol: Euh, en fait je ne sais plus bouhouhou ^^ Nan mais je CROIS que tu peux le faire avant le mariage civil dans la religion musulmane, pour les juifs et les catholiques c’est obligatoirement après (ça je suis quasi certaine).
18 août 2011 @ 15:54:35
De toute façon, ce n’est jamais la passion entre belle-mère et gendre…
18 août 2011 @ 15:58:03
@Evoluol : ça signifie tout simplement que le mariage célébré l’a été illégalement. Et par conséquent qu’il peut y avoir des recours ou des sanctions.
C’est une façon de protéger certain(e)s des mariages polygames (puisque certaines religions autorisent la polygamie). Si le célébrant suit la loi, il n’a pas le droit de marier des gens qui n’ont pas été déjà marié devant l’Etat et qui le prouvent en présentant leur acte de mariage. L’acte de mariage civil est une garantie que les deux époux ne sont bien que deux :razz:
Et ce n’est pas parce que certains le font que c’est légal!
18 août 2011 @ 15:59:39
@Evoluol moi j’ai pas dis dans quel sens le mariage civil/religieu devait se faire, mais j’ai dis que pour que le mariage soit VALIDE il doit y avoir une cérémonie a la mairie.
Hors la, on sait pas si il y a eu mariage religieux, et on ne sait pas si il a eu lieu avant, ou après.
Je reagissais juste a la personne qui disait que ça se passais a la mairie et que donc yavais rien a voir avec la religion.
18 août 2011 @ 17:06:22
Bah l’Islam autorise la polygamie, donc l’obligation de passer a la mairie ne tient plus, c’est donc logique.
@Dryade l’état ne reconnait que les mariages civils et a priori le mariage religieux c’est pour Dieu lol on est d’accord ^^
18 août 2011 @ 17:14:06
Et ce qui devait arriver, arriva… Le débat de comptoir du bar PMU est lancé.
Ne supprimez pas pour autant. Faut arrêter avec la censure de ce type de documents. Les débats sont débiles mais éviter le sujet est pire encore
18 août 2011 @ 17:21:48
Les mariages polygames sont illégaux…
Mais bon j’arrête là la polémique. Amusez-vous bien!
18 août 2011 @ 18:16:36
@hello: ahahah tu me fais rire….. un vrai musulman ne forcera jamais personne a se reconvertir. connais tu bien l islam pour juger? d ailleur comme bcp de monde juge sans connaitre… c est dingue le nombre de rasciste qui as en europe, quand tu voit que dans ces pays il t accueil les bras ouvert^^… mais bon…
18 août 2011 @ 18:22:08
ah.. et si jamais… chez les musulman ya pas de mariage a la mosquée si c est ce ke vous croyé:lol:
18 août 2011 @ 18:53:17
L’islam qui ne force pas la conversion ou qui n’est pas radical , ah ah la bonne blague…. Depuis la fin des croisades ,l’extrémisme a changé de camp , au début c’était les musulmans que l’on massacrait et à la fin les chrétiens. Et depuis , l’islam prône la conversion en masse vu que c’est le but de toute religion….
La blague des coptes ( chrétiens égyptiens) qui épousent des musulmans c’est la pire connerie du monde , les musulmans égyptiens font tout pour éradiquer les coptes , par exemple en votant la perte de leur statut de religion minoritaire( et de toute les protection qu’elle offre)…
Il n’a peut - être pas forcer la conversation mais il ne faut pas oublier que les mariages musulmans-chrétiens sont rare en Europe , ils restent dans leur milieux . Chez moi par exemple , si une jeune fille musulmane sort avec un non-musulmans c’est le lynchage public et le mariage au bled pour la jeunes filles ( ou bien crime d’ »honneur » bien sur)… L’islam n’est pas une religion d’adaptation hein…
Ne pas oublier que nous sommes tous des infidèles et un religieux modéré finira toujours par mettre sa religion en avant….
Et ceux qui crie au racisme a tord et a travers , penser un peux au racisme anti-blanc de gens qui crachent sur le pays qui les acceptes….
Avoir des droits , c’est aussi avoir des devoirs….
Mais Dieu merci la pensé gauchisante politiquement, correcte , bobo a encore de beau jours devant elle.
Un homme profondément athée ( si on a supprimé le pouvoir des curés , ce n’est pas pour subir celui des imams !!! )
18 août 2011 @ 19:07:37
J’ai envie d’intervenir là pourtant d’habitude je me contente de lire les articles et de rire dans mon coin mais là… ça m’a pas fait rire du tout. Et les commentaire encore moins.
Donc pour clarifier les choses : en France, il n’y a plus aucun adoul (celui qui marie en islam) qui accepte de marier deux personnes avant qu’elles passent devant le maire et pour une raison toute simple (qui va peut-être être une raison de plus au anti-islam de parler) c’est que beaucoup de jeunes personnes se sont mariés religieusement pour pouvoir vivre leur relation dans le Halal (ce qui est autorisé) alors que ça n’était pas sérieux et à la fin ils se quittent et recommencent dès qu’ils trouvent un nouveau partenaire.
Sinon, je suis moi même avec un musulman depuis 3 ans, convertie à l’Islam par amour de cette religion et pas par amour de mon fiancé et on entend encore des gens dire que c’est pour les papiers alors qu’on veut vivre au Maroc et pas en France. Je vous dis ça pour vous faire comprendre que ce n’est pas parce que la mère dit ça que c’est forcément vrai.
Et ce n’est pas non plus forcément faux.
Bref … Pour moi il faut retirer ce Stupidbook tout simplement
18 août 2011 @ 19:21:47
@Evoluol: L’Islam reconnait la polygamie… dans certaines conditions. Cela dit il faut réfléchir un peu est ce que la France est le seul pays où il y a des musulmans ? NON. Donc faut arrêter de regarder toujours son nombril. L’Islam ne se base pas sur la loi française donc c’est pour ça que il y a des choses qui diffèrent. Ça me parait logique mais les gens ne semblent pas comprendre…
18 août 2011 @ 19:30:10
@Nour: Le retirer serait inutile. A ce que j’ai lu, peu de commentaires sont racistes. Il y en a, certes, et c’est le débat qui en est sorti qui est intéressant. Ce n’est pas en cachant, en évitant le sujet qu’on fait avancer les choses.
Tu sais, je suis moi-même issu d’une famille musulmane ET juive. Et s’il y a bien une chose qui m’oppresse c’est le non-dit.
Il y a 50 ans, les musulmans étaient laissés en paix, mais les juifs étaient stigmatisés. Aujourd’hui ce sont les musulmans. Demain on emmerdera les bouddhistes, qui sait ?
Si dans ce statut, l’homme s’est marié pour avoir les papiers, honte sur lui. Mais on ne connait pas toute l’histoire. Peut-être la jeune femme était au courant et lui a demandé une récompense pécuniaire. Ou bien, rien de cette histoire n’est vrai mais le couple a divorcé quelques temps plus tard et la belle-mère, rancunière, invente. On ne sait rien, on ne juge que sur ces quelques bribes de vie. Et de ce j’ai lu, on critique plus les deux protagonistes « racistes » que les jeunes mariés (à part pour la façon odieuse dont la mariée est attifée mais c’est autre chose).
18 août 2011 @ 22:23:43
Moi j’ai compris le message comme certaines personnes au-dessus càd : le mariage a eu lieu en novembre 2010, entre temps le mec s’est barré ou s’est « mal comporté » selon elle, et 8 mois lus tard la mère retombe sur la photo et balance !
Bref je pense qu’au départ il n’y avait pas trop de tension sinon elle n’aurait pas mis la photo sur FB…
18 août 2011 @ 22:24:03
@Commu: tu dis n’importe quoi dès le début.. l’islam est une religion dont les fondements sont inamovibles (mis à part sous certaines conditions où la religion se doit de s’adapter à la société qui l’accueille, mais les écrits restent), donc logiquement il ne peut pas « prôner » un extrémisme qui n’aurait pas été établi dès la révélation du Coran et qui serait arrivé après.
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D’ailleurs c’est difficile à comprendre et à tolérer pour un non-musulman, mais si prosélytisme il y a ça part FORCEMENT d’une bonne intention (essayez de comprendre au moins un peu). La limite à ne pas franchir c’est la conversion forcée (interdite et donc pas présente dans les écrits sacrés).
après ça part complètement dans tous les sens, le paragraphe sur les musulmanes qui se font lyncher ça relève clairement plus de la culture maghrébine que de la culture islamique, d’ailleurs si une algérienne sort avec un marocain c’est la même sentence et vice-versa, bref. Quand à la partie sur le racisme anti-blanc non seulement c’est complètement hors-sujet (si l’islam est une religion raciste je veux bien aller en enfer lol, encore une fois : se référer aux écrits), mais en plus tu te grilles tout seul (ton mépris de l’islam vient de ton idéologie politique et pas de ton rapport strict à cette religion, je me trompe ?
Bref, sur ce
18 août 2011 @ 22:31:27
Quant à la jeune fille, on sait pas grand-chose de la situation.. aussi bien son mari s’est mis avec elle juste pour les papiers, mais aussi bien c’est juste un cliché que la mère, aigrie par la conversion de sa fille, ressort. D’ailleurs ça m’étonnerait que ce soit la première situation puisqu’en général les mariages « pour avoir les papiers » se font entre communautés (ex : si le type est marocain, il se serait plutôt marié avec une française d’origine marocaine). De plus, si il lui fait porter le voile c’est qu’il tient à elle (n’en déplaise aux islamophobes, c’est la stricte vérité haha), donc forcément il en a pas rien à foutre et ne s’est pas marié QUE pour les papiers.
Enfin ça reste juste une déduction logique, je préfère pas m’affirmer là-dessus, personne à part la fille et son mari ne connait la situation. En tout cas, pas grand-chose à faire sur stupidbook, moi j’étais venu pour me marrer et je me retrouve en plein coeur d’un débat politico-religieux mdr
18 août 2011 @ 22:44:17
Qu’est ce que j’avais dis..
19 août 2011 @ 00:13:38
En tout cas, pour une dame qui doit avoir un certain âge, son orthographe laisse à désirer. Les mots croisés ne doivent pas faire partie de ses passe-temps
Pis faut pas déconner, j’ai connu des musulmans qui faisaient manger du porc à leur gamins, qui ne faisaient pas le ramadan, qui ne priaient pas … mais qui adhéraient quand même aux préceptes (après j’y connais pas grand choses, mais c’est comme ceux qui se disent catho et qui bouffe de l’entrecôte le vendredi, font la grasse mat’ le dimanche et font des bisous au voisin dans le fond du jardin).
Si c’était juste pour les papiers, j’ai quand même l’impression que le jeune homme s’est donné un sacré coup de pied au cul pour faire un mariage digne de ce nom. Et puis s’il était si intégriste que ça, il n’aurait pas accepté la robe blanche, moins que je me trompe … (?)
Bref … Tout ce que je retiens c’est juste que la mère n’a aucun respect pour sa fille de parler de se relation avec son mari comme ça (ce serait la mienne, quel que soit la situation, je lui passerait un savon), surtout avec son verbe si peu à son avantage.
19 août 2011 @ 08:05:06
Ca me rappelle des souvenirs, sauf que pour rien au monde je n’aurais mis la photo du mariage de ma fille sur mon FB.
Elle s’est faite avoir aussi, comme beaucoup. Un Tunisien qui l’a draguée à mort en vacances en Tunisie. Comme elle allait souvent au même hôtel, plusieurs fois par an, il l’a repérée… Tout ce qu’il voulait c’était les papiers pour venir en France (il me l’a dit APRES) alors il a joué la comédie de l’amour. Et il l’a épousée, robe blanche et tout, comme celui cité en référence. UNE SEMAINE après avoir eu ses papiers (titre de séjour) il s’est barré avec une bande de musulmans qui sont venus le chercher. Après avoir foutu une trempe à ma fille qui résistait : il tentait de tous lui voler >> voiture, meubles… argent… (tout était à elle, il ne possédait rien et ne bossait pas).
Il a fallu un commando de gendarmes en tenue d’assaut avec mitraillettes au poing pour les déloger. Durée du mariage 3 mois. Et retour au bled manu militari pour le gars. Parait qu’il serait de retour comme clandestin et recherché…
Alors ne rêvons pas… ça existe et arrive bien plus souvent qu’on le croit. En plus un musulman peut épouser une chrétienne sans souci, mais une musulmane non. L’homme doit se convertir sinon pas d’adoul ! Mon frère a dû le faire pour épouser une marocaine au bled. Mais pour lui plus de chance, c’est un mariage d’amour.
Si la mère a mis ce commentaire, c’est qu’elle a dû remarquer des choses… pas agréables pour sa fille. Genre obligation du port du voile, parce que ne vous leurrez pas, certains maris obligent leurs femmes à le faire. Mon ex-gendre a essayé. Et il jetait tous les repas qu’elle préparait même avec des ingrédients hallal… Selon lui, elle était trop impure pour qu’il touche à sa bouffe>> les chrétiennes sont toutes des s.lopes pour lui.
Edifiant, nan ? Alors, j’aurais tendance à y croire et à lire entre les lignes. Bien placée pour ça.
19 août 2011 @ 08:32:16
@Crapou : c’est con pour ta fille, mais sauf si tu t’appelles Nathalie, et que c’est ta fille en photo sur ce SB, ben… comment dire? OSEF un peu. Sinon je te raconte l’histoire de ma copine stéph qui est mariée avec un tunisien et pour qui ça se passe très bien. Mais je ne suis pas sûre que ça soit vraiment le débat en fait….
Pour en revenir au SB, elle ne pouvait pas tout simplement virer la photo, Nathalie? Plutôt que de balancer en public sur son (ex?)gendre… et les copines de la mère (on suppose) qui en rajoutent une couche…
Je ne comprendrai jamais ce besoin d’exposer sa vie privée en public. Générations d’exhibitionnistes !
19 août 2011 @ 09:30:52
@Claire: A la base, Facebook, c’est pour les amis… donc pas si « public » que ça. Ici, pour que la photo et les commentaires nous soient parvenus, c’est qu’un des « amis » de la mère les a envoyés ici. Déjà, c’est pas très cool, surtout qu’il n’y a rien de drôle du tout dans la situation qui transparaît.
Je présume que la mère a la haine – tout comme je l’ai eue – de voir sa fille enfermée dans un mariage qui s’il dure encore, ne doit pas bien se passer à ses yeux. On a envie de voir ses gosses heureux, pas voilés des pieds à la tête et convertis à l’Islam quand on est soit même chrétien. Même si on est tolérant, ça fait bizarre, comme si on avait raté quelque chose…
Et non, je ne m’appelle pas Nathalie. Je n’ai rien à voir avec la personne citée en référence et je ne suis pas exhibitionniste du tout. Pour preuve, c’est un pseudo que j’utilise, et mon face book est sous mon pseudo d’auteur et pour mes lecteurs. ^^
Je dirais que la mère a été trahie par un de ses amis, ici.
19 août 2011 @ 14:37:21
« Bah l’Islam autorise la polygamie, donc l’obligation de passer a la mairie ne tient plus, c’est donc logique. »
heu… non c’est pas logique
on est un pays laïque je le rappelle hein !!
ps: sinon pour les histoires perso, n’en faites pas une généralité les gens. laissez au moins le bénéfice du doute (au faite, dois-je dire que je « trollais » quand je traitais la belle mère de raciste? ^^ »)
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@Crapou: En référence à ton message : au final tout dépend de la mentalité du gars. Puisqu’on est dans la série « je raconte des histoires personnelles », à mon tour. Je connais un type chrétien, voir très chrétien (issu d’une famille très chrétienne où la religion a une certaine valeur) marié à une musulmane. Ben au début la musulmane était pas vraiment chiante par rapport à sa religion, y avait un respect mutuel par rapport à la famille chrétienne. Puis au fur et à mesure elle a eu un comportement assez peu respectueux, allant jusqu’à influencer son mari lorsqu’il y avait des communions ou autres (la notion de famille est alors assez importante). Bref, elle devient chiante parce qu’elle veut plus s’adapter à la religion des autres. Donc ça dépend de chacun.
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@Chouchou : euh t’es sûr/e que c’est la fille? D’ailleurs, après relecture, c’est presque encore plus savoureux si c’est la fille. Vu la 1ère remarque de la mère, datée de plusieurs mois après…
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