Bon déjà le mec il est pas génial quand même… Et là faut dire que c’est abusé, la mère à quel âge sérieux ?
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Lenne 27 mai 2012 @ 22:51:27
On voit de qui tient la fille …
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Lyra 28 mai 2012 @ 00:06:03
je suis…choquée… Comme dit Lenne, on voit de qui tiens la fille.
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Mr L 28 mai 2012 @ 00:55:26
Vous êtes choqués par quoi ?
Par la bêtise de la fille « toi j’te baiserai sur place », par la nullité des commentaires, par la publicité de ces histoires, par la photo (franchement… la pose est naze), ou simplement par l’orthographe ?
En tous cas perso, je suis choqué par les cinq, mais en aucun cas par le fait que la fille et la mère puissent discuter de leurs goûts en matière d’attirance sexuelle… on est au XXIe s, réveillez-vous. La puberté c’est à 12 ans, et la discussion amène la maturité, l’ouverture d’esprit… Quoique dans la peuplasse moyenne, ça n’aide pas bcp mais ce n’est pas un critère. La connerie vient d’ailleurs, croyez-moi.
C’est quand l’on croit avoir touché le fond qu’on se rend compte de la possibilité d’aller bien plus profondément encore… « *___* » comme dirait l’autre
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Ed Deline 29 mai 2012 @ 03:46:01
@Mr L: j’espère que tu épouseras une s***** qui te fera croire qu’elle est bien et que ta fille se fera baiser par la moitié des gars de ta ville pour le plaisir…J’espère qu’on ne connaîtra le père d’aucun de tes petits-enfants…
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Gwen 29 mai 2012 @ 10:36:38
Je suis vieux jeu, sans aucun doute, mais qu’on soit plus vierge à 15 ans, cela passe encore, mais que l’on revendique le fait de baiser, mince, mais on va où ? Sans sacraliser le sexe, une relation intime, c’est intime, donc avec de la valeur, qu’on soit un garçon ou une fille. Les plans cul, adulte, cela ne me choque pas, mais quand on est encore ado ? On a déjà perdu ses illusions sur la vie, l’amour, les relations ? Et la mère qui encourage ce genre d’attitude, non, je ne peux pas. D’abord, un parent doit rester un parent. On peut être proche de ses enfants, mais on ne peux pas être son « pote ». La mère est là à justifier les remarques de sa fille, c’est pas super sain. Il est normal de parler de sexualité avec ses parents, mais publiquement ainsi ? Et pourquoi pas lui raconter la position faite hier avec son père ? Et puis on va également arrêter de faire l’autruche, malgré l’ouverture sexuelle, tout ça, afficher publiquement ce type de remarque va surtout encouragé les remarques de type « fille facile ». Ce n’est que de la surenchère, pour faire bien, dans le coup, cool et autre conneries superficielles…
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Gabrilus 29 mai 2012 @ 12:38:30
@Gwen: Je plussoie totalement ce que vous dites et j’ajouterais que ce n’est pas une question de « vieux jeu », simplement que, comme vous le dites si bien, dans un premier temps, la sexualité est privée donc, on ne la balance pas sur Facebook même s’il ne s’agit pas à proprement parler de sexualité mais plus de sexe. Précisément, le terme me gêne, surtout qu’il ne s’agit que de physique, mais à la limite, c’est pas trop gênant ça, c’est une petite, c’est du classique. Non, effectivement, dans un deuxième temps, là où je vous rejoints totalement c’est bien sur la mère, c’est le genre de conversation qu’elle ne doit pas rejoindre. La jeune fille n’a que quinze ans, elle est encore à un âge où le « papa-maman » doit rester le « papa-maman », les parents ne doivent pas être des copains (surtout pas à cet âge, j’ai envie de dire…) et la mère d’une ado ne doit pas se pointer dans de pareils moments.
@Mr L: « Vous êtes choqués par quoi ? [...] par la publicité de ces histoires » J’ai du mal à comprendre, vouliez-vous dire « la publication de ces histoires » ? Est-ce que le fait que ces « quotes » soient publiées vous gène ? J’ai pas excessivement compris.
Par ailleurs, certes la discussion amène -en théorie- la maturité, mais je maintiens que Facebook est tout sauf un endroit pour parler (ça se saurait depuis le temps) et si c’est si « éducatif » que de déblatérer si oui ou non un homme est « praticable », je pense qu’une discussion face à face est d’avantage appropriée. Je ne pense pas que l’on puisse, sous prétexte de la pseudo-évolution des moeurs (car je défis quiconque de dire que la populace s’ouvre ne serait-ce que sexuellement), et de l’évolution des supports de communication, je ne pense pas (disais-je) qu’il est nécessaire de s’adapter à cette même évolution.
Ce n’est pas parce que TF1 est LA chaîne la plus regardée qu’il faut sacrifier nos pauvres neurones sur l’autel du « c’est l’évolution qui veut ça ma p’tite dame ». Idem ici. Ce n’est pas parce que les enfants se prennent de plus en plus tôt pour des adultes qu’il faille le cautionner. Et avoir le bon sens de dire que « baiser » est vulgaire au possible et réductif de l’acte au possible n’est pas signe d’une étroitesse d’esprit.
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Mr M 29 mai 2012 @ 13:18:46
@Ed Deline: ou pourquoi discuter quand on peux être simplement agressif?
T’ain comment ça se prend trop au sérieux dans les commentaires… Sinon, je plussoie Mr L. On pourrait rire de plein de choses ici: des fôtes d’ortaugraphe, du décalage entre les commentaires et la photo, de la beaufitude de l’attitude de la mère et de la fille, de l’affiche sur Fb, ect. Oui, on pourrait en rire de tout ça. Au lieu de ça, dans les com, ça dérive sur des positions moralistes qui puent le « slut bashing ». C’est ça que c’est en train de devenir Stupidbook? Du réactions puritaines en chaîne, des « Oh! Shoking! » à la pelle, du moralisme en veux-tu en voilà, de la psychologie à 2 balles? Décidément, on se marre plus beaucoup sur ce site :/
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Ed Deline 31 mai 2012 @ 23:03:54
Et après les femmes qui donnent leurs corps le premier soir ne comprennent pas qu’elles ne trouvent pas de maris ou de gars bien…
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Gwen 04 juin 2012 @ 10:49:18
@Ed Deline: Ce n’est pas parce que tu couche le premier soir que tu couche facielement. c’est un racourcit un peu facile et surtout très sexiste. D’autant que « les femmes qui donnent leurs corps le premier soir » elles le font bien avec des hommes qui donnent aussi leur corps.:twisted:
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27 mai 2012 @ 22:42:48
Bon déjà le mec il est pas génial quand même… Et là faut dire que c’est abusé, la mère à quel âge sérieux ?
27 mai 2012 @ 22:51:27
On voit de qui tient la fille …
28 mai 2012 @ 00:06:03
je suis…choquée…
Comme dit Lenne, on voit de qui tiens la fille.
28 mai 2012 @ 00:55:26
Vous êtes choqués par quoi ?
Par la bêtise de la fille « toi j’te baiserai sur place », par la nullité des commentaires, par la publicité de ces histoires, par la photo (franchement… la pose est naze), ou simplement par l’orthographe ?
En tous cas perso, je suis choqué par les cinq, mais en aucun cas par le fait que la fille et la mère puissent discuter de leurs goûts en matière d’attirance sexuelle… on est au XXIe s, réveillez-vous. La puberté c’est à 12 ans, et la discussion amène la maturité, l’ouverture d’esprit… Quoique dans la peuplasse moyenne, ça n’aide pas bcp mais ce n’est pas un critère. La connerie vient d’ailleurs, croyez-moi.
28 mai 2012 @ 01:43:30
@Mr L: Moi je suis choquée par le « Putin ».
28 mai 2012 @ 15:06:14
C’est quand l’on croit avoir touché le fond qu’on se rend compte de la possibilité d’aller bien plus profondément encore… « *___* » comme dirait l’autre
29 mai 2012 @ 03:46:01
@Mr L: j’espère que tu épouseras une s***** qui te fera croire qu’elle est bien et que ta fille se fera baiser par la moitié des gars de ta ville pour le plaisir…J’espère qu’on ne connaîtra le père d’aucun de tes petits-enfants…
29 mai 2012 @ 10:36:38
Je suis vieux jeu, sans aucun doute, mais qu’on soit plus vierge à 15 ans, cela passe encore, mais que l’on revendique le fait de baiser, mince, mais on va où ?
Sans sacraliser le sexe, une relation intime, c’est intime, donc avec de la valeur, qu’on soit un garçon ou une fille. Les plans cul, adulte, cela ne me choque pas, mais quand on est encore ado ? On a déjà perdu ses illusions sur la vie, l’amour, les relations ?
Et la mère qui encourage ce genre d’attitude, non, je ne peux pas. D’abord, un parent doit rester un parent. On peut être proche de ses enfants, mais on ne peux pas être son « pote ». La mère est là à justifier les remarques de sa fille, c’est pas super sain. Il est normal de parler de sexualité avec ses parents, mais publiquement ainsi ? Et pourquoi pas lui raconter la position faite hier avec son père ?
Et puis on va également arrêter de faire l’autruche, malgré l’ouverture sexuelle, tout ça, afficher publiquement ce type de remarque va surtout encouragé les remarques de type « fille facile ».
Ce n’est que de la surenchère, pour faire bien, dans le coup, cool et autre conneries superficielles…
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@Gwen: Je plussoie totalement ce que vous dites et j’ajouterais que ce n’est pas une question de « vieux jeu », simplement que, comme vous le dites si bien, dans un premier temps, la sexualité est privée donc, on ne la balance pas sur Facebook même s’il ne s’agit pas à proprement parler de sexualité mais plus de sexe. Précisément, le terme me gêne, surtout qu’il ne s’agit que de physique, mais à la limite, c’est pas trop gênant ça, c’est une petite, c’est du classique.
Non, effectivement, dans un deuxième temps, là où je vous rejoints totalement c’est bien sur la mère, c’est le genre de conversation qu’elle ne doit pas rejoindre. La jeune fille n’a que quinze ans, elle est encore à un âge où le « papa-maman » doit rester le « papa-maman », les parents ne doivent pas être des copains (surtout pas à cet âge, j’ai envie de dire…) et la mère d’une ado ne doit pas se pointer dans de pareils moments.
@Mr L: « Vous êtes choqués par quoi ? [...] par la publicité de ces histoires » J’ai du mal à comprendre, vouliez-vous dire « la publication de ces histoires » ? Est-ce que le fait que ces « quotes » soient publiées vous gène ? J’ai pas excessivement compris.
Par ailleurs, certes la discussion amène -en théorie- la maturité, mais je maintiens que Facebook est tout sauf un endroit pour parler (ça se saurait depuis le temps) et si c’est si « éducatif » que de déblatérer si oui ou non un homme est « praticable », je pense qu’une discussion face à face est d’avantage appropriée. Je ne pense pas que l’on puisse, sous prétexte de la pseudo-évolution des moeurs (car je défis quiconque de dire que la populace s’ouvre ne serait-ce que sexuellement), et de l’évolution des supports de communication, je ne pense pas (disais-je) qu’il est nécessaire de s’adapter à cette même évolution.
Ce n’est pas parce que TF1 est LA chaîne la plus regardée qu’il faut sacrifier nos pauvres neurones sur l’autel du « c’est l’évolution qui veut ça ma p’tite dame ». Idem ici. Ce n’est pas parce que les enfants se prennent de plus en plus tôt pour des adultes qu’il faille le cautionner. Et avoir le bon sens de dire que « baiser » est vulgaire au possible et réductif de l’acte au possible n’est pas signe d’une étroitesse d’esprit.
29 mai 2012 @ 13:18:46
@Ed Deline: ou pourquoi discuter quand on peux être simplement agressif?
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@Mr M: Je n’avais pas envie d’argumenter…
30 mai 2012 @ 22:41:13
T’ain comment ça se prend trop au sérieux dans les commentaires… Sinon, je plussoie Mr L. On pourrait rire de plein de choses ici: des fôtes d’ortaugraphe, du décalage entre les commentaires et la photo, de la beaufitude de l’attitude de la mère et de la fille, de l’affiche sur Fb, ect. Oui, on pourrait en rire de tout ça. Au lieu de ça, dans les com, ça dérive sur des positions moralistes qui puent le « slut bashing ». C’est ça que c’est en train de devenir Stupidbook? Du réactions puritaines en chaîne, des « Oh! Shoking! » à la pelle, du moralisme en veux-tu en voilà, de la psychologie à 2 balles? Décidément, on se marre plus beaucoup sur ce site :/
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Et après les femmes qui donnent leurs corps le premier soir ne comprennent pas qu’elles ne trouvent pas de maris ou de gars bien…
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@Ed Deline: Ce n’est pas parce que tu couche le premier soir que tu couche facielement. c’est un racourcit un peu facile et surtout très sexiste. D’autant que « les femmes qui donnent leurs corps le premier soir » elles le font bien avec des hommes qui donnent aussi leur corps.:twisted:
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Moi souvent que je donne mon corps dès le premier soir … mais bon personne n’en veut hormis la science
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@Homan: Oui, ça arrive ça aussi, de vouloir donner mais de ne pas trouver de volontaire !!
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