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J’ai pas bien compris le post avec les « … » :/
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@Ramlec: C’est parce qu’il n’y a rien à comprendre ^^
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A mon avis il va falloir s’attendre à de plus en plus d’interventions de ce genre…
« La marche du vertueux [...] la vengeance du Tout-Puissant. » –> « Pulp Fiction ! » « Non madame, la Bible. » Et une fois je passe la B.O de Pulp Fiction justement, à un exposé, réaction : « Taxi 4 ! »
Fail.
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Ouais Bigbahlsen sauf que la tirade de Pulp Fiction n’est pas une citation tiré directement de la Bible. Elle a été transformé . Tu as utilisé un très mauvais exemple. Tu fais partie de cette fameuse culture poubelle, je suis désolé de te l’apprendre. Oui Monsieur, oui Monsieur! =)
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Et merde.
Bon culture-nous, cite ta source !
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Ma source? N’importe quelle Bible, Ézéchiel Chapitre 25.
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Bigbahlsen 06 nov 2010 @ 18:16:39
« la tirade de Pulp Fiction n’est pas une citation tiré directement de la Bible. » « Ma source? N’importe quelle Bible, Ézéchiel Chapitre 25. » On est d’accord, ça vient de la Bible. Et le fait que ça soit transformé, on s’en badigeonne non ? J’aime bien me cultiver, mais j’ai toujours laissé la Bible de côté, d’ailleurs, c’est ce que je vais continuer de faire. Pour tout avouer, la Bible, je la mettrais bien entièrement sur Facebook, pour pouvoir ensuite la mettre sur ce site. Amen. Tiens, c’est la première fois que je dis ce que je pense sur Internet moi…
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Jingg 06 nov 2010 @ 21:07:25
Justement non, on ne s’en badigeonne pas. Lorsque tu cites un dialogue de Tarantino qui reprend vaguement un passage de la Bible en le transformant et en le dénaturant tu ne peux plus l’attribuer à la Bible. Ça n’a plus rien à voir. Lorsque tu cites le film et que tu ajoutes: « - Pulp Fiction! – NonMadame, la Bible » c’est totalement faux. Ça n’est pas une citation de la Bible puisque c’est quelque chose de radicalement différent. Ton exemple ne colle pas c’est tout. Après pour dire que la Bible c’est stupide,d’une certaine manière je suis bien d’accord. Encore faut-il l’avoir lu avant ^^.
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Et pourtant…le film lui-même prétend citer cette même Bible : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RUvoJ-DLzI&feature=related Rend-toi précisément à 6:04 pour entendre M.Jackson l’affirmer. Dès lors il devient difficile de blâmer ceux qui y ont cru. J’ai bien tenté de la lire histoire de faire plaisir à maman, mais visiblement je me suis arrêté avant ce passage…Qui effectivement diffère pas mal de celui du film, je viens d’aller vérifier.
Pour en revenir à Pulp Fiction, c’est clair que citer Taxi pour la musique ça craint du boudin, mais bon c’est comme ça et c’est malheureux…
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Hector 07 nov 2010 @ 11:30:36
Si on joue au jeu du premier « kikafékoi », avant d’être la musique de Taxi, ce fut effectivement la musique de Pulp fiction, avant d’être la musique de Pulp fiction, c’est la musique du groupe The Trashmen qui répond au doux nom de Miserlou
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Bigbahlsen 07 nov 2010 @ 11:54:15
@Hector: C’est vrai qu’on a pas mal tourné en rond avec notre ami Jingg, finalement je trouve ça « pointless ». Et puis la phrase « a vaincre sans péril, on triomphe sans gloire », qu’on la découvre dans Masterchef ou le Cid, l’important c’est surtout qu’elle nous fasse méditer. Tu voulais dire Misirlou ? Je l’ai découverte dans Guitar Hero moi (qui vient de dire culture poubelle ?!), elle serait de Dick Dale. Mince, j’ai récidivé…^^
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Misirlou ou Miserlou (on me souffle dans l’oreillette que cela signifie Egyptienne) est une musique populaire grecque, chantée pour la première fois en 1927 par l’orchestre de rebetiko, mais de part son coté traditionnel, il est difficile d’en attribuer la paternité. ok j’avoue google est mon ami. :lol:
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@Hector: Google est notre ami à tous mon enfant. Et là, ça sonne pas religieux ?
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« Pour tout avouer, la Bible, je la mettrais bien entièrement sur Facebook, pour pouvoir ensuite la mettre sur ce site. Amen. » C’est magnifique !
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Juste une question, qu’est ce que Masterchef ?
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@Jingg: Depuis quand ne pas avoir lu la bible (sans majuscule s’il vous plaît) c’est être un idiot inculte?! ALERTE A L’INTEGRISTE LES ENFANTS !! Bon ok je plaisante mais il ne faut pas tout mélanger. Et puis es-tu sûr que c’est Tarantino qui a modifié le passage, où les traducteurs quand ils l’ont fait passer en français?
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non mais qui etes vous pour criticer la sainte bible???? « seigneur, pardonne-leurs, ils ne savent pas ce qu’ils font… »
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@hector et puis la musique des Trashmen c’est MirsIlou sinon savez vous pour l’oiseau?
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« La marche du vertueux [...] la vengeance du Tout-Puissant. »
–> « Pulp Fiction ! » « Non madame, la Bible. »
Et une fois je passe la B.O de Pulp Fiction justement, à un exposé, réaction : « Taxi 4 ! »
Fail.
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Ouais Bigbahlsen sauf que la tirade de Pulp Fiction n’est pas une citation tiré directement de la Bible. Elle a été transformé . Tu as utilisé un très mauvais exemple. Tu fais partie de cette fameuse culture poubelle, je suis désolé de te l’apprendre.
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Ma source? N’importe quelle Bible, Ézéchiel Chapitre 25.
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06 nov 2010 @ 18:16:39
« la tirade de Pulp Fiction n’est pas une citation tiré directement de la Bible. »
« Ma source? N’importe quelle Bible, Ézéchiel Chapitre 25. »
On est d’accord, ça vient de la Bible. Et le fait que ça soit transformé, on s’en badigeonne non ?
J’aime bien me cultiver, mais j’ai toujours laissé la Bible de côté, d’ailleurs, c’est ce que je vais continuer de faire. Pour tout avouer, la Bible, je la mettrais bien entièrement sur Facebook, pour pouvoir ensuite la mettre sur ce site. Amen.
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Justement non, on ne s’en badigeonne pas. Lorsque tu cites un dialogue de Tarantino qui reprend vaguement un passage de la Bible en le transformant et en le dénaturant tu ne peux plus l’attribuer à la Bible. Ça n’a plus rien à voir.
Lorsque tu cites le film et que tu ajoutes: « - Pulp Fiction! – NonMadame, la Bible » c’est totalement faux. Ça n’est pas une citation de la Bible puisque c’est quelque chose de radicalement différent. Ton exemple ne colle pas c’est tout.
Après pour dire que la Bible c’est stupide,d’une certaine manière je suis bien d’accord. Encore faut-il l’avoir lu avant ^^.
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Et pourtant…le film lui-même prétend citer cette même Bible : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RUvoJ-DLzI&feature=related
Rend-toi précisément à 6:04 pour entendre M.Jackson l’affirmer. Dès lors il devient difficile de blâmer ceux qui y ont cru. J’ai bien tenté de la lire histoire de faire plaisir à maman, mais visiblement je me suis arrêté avant ce passage…Qui effectivement diffère pas mal de celui du film, je viens d’aller vérifier.
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Si on joue au jeu du premier « kikafékoi », avant d’être la musique de Taxi, ce fut effectivement la musique de Pulp fiction, avant d’être la musique de Pulp fiction, c’est la musique du groupe The Trashmen qui répond au doux nom de Miserlou
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